We did a gray mix on around 3000 sf and didn’t have an issue (as well as others that were 1000-2000 sf. I would guess that it would be slightly easier on American Walnut than Brazilian walnut, but that is simply speculation. If the wood is unfinished it would probably be from the US. And we are finally putting in wood flooring, which we’ve always wanted. The pink tones would be about the same. Thank you I was leaning towards it. Importantly, with oiled floors, you shouldn’t use a regular hardwood cleaner. Instead, create a custom blend of white and ebony. Antique Materials, Classic Coastal Colonial Renovation - the Ultimate Island, The Cliffs at Mountain Park: Private Residence, http://www.normandyremodeling.com/stephaniebryant/, Linda McDougald Design | Postcard from Paris Home. You need to periodically treat the floors with more oil. Can you stain Brazilian cherry grey? The island is a stained maple and cabinets on the perimeter are painted in light grey with charcoal grey … felt pads, doggie socks, Ebook – What to look for when buying a home with hardwood. In your case, you should be using bona traffic HD for the poly. We knew we did not want to go the traditional route of dark walnut but give new life to hardwood flooring in this new build. If you can’t tell from the surface, see if there is a grate or register in the floor that you can lift up and then view the profile of the wood. I really appreciate that. 5. Is it even possible to do white washed with american cherry floors? Dani – My guy just uses “white.” I have a hunch they’ve introduced some variations now, so you can give those a try. They will come back tomorrow and put on a 3rd and 4th I believe. Also, you can check out this article I just published about an hour ago and try Duraseal’s new “dark gray.” See the article here: Duraseal’s new gray blends. He is concerned that the formulas are different and I believe that one is oil based but he will try it. It sounds like you are going very light based on that mix. It’s perfect if you’re staining your floors gray, or white, or just going for a natural super clean look. We usually use Country White. Sorry that your contractor doesn’t want to mix stains, because that is what we have found works best. This is even more true for older floors because of the hardness. Hi great article. Once I do my tests and settle on a mixture how do you continue to achieve that same mixture ratio of ebony and white gallon after gallon? As background, it’s easy to get the gray color in pre-finished maple or birch floors. May throw aged barrel in the mix! Often, my guys take one of those large plastic milk containers and cut the top off. Water poly is thinner than oil based so you are feeling the roughness more and this is also another reason you want at least 3 coats. If you do a traditional brown stain, you can either use oil based or water borne poly. I’m going to give this a try in a couple of weeks. If they are oak and just stained dark brown, that is no problem at all and it’s done all the time. I am hoping you might have a “recipe” suggestion for me. Red oak has underlying red tones, and often a darker gray is needed to achieve the desired look. Thank you they looked the same and I did notice that about the shipping. I would probably get it in satin (or else potentially matte). It costs more than Bona Mega, but it’s worth it as it looks better, lasts longer and amberizes less. Please note that this article may contain affiliate links. Lisa – Yes, things will smooth out soon. If you like the darkness of Dark Walnut, but wanted gray undertones, would you mix/blend ebony, white, and a dark walnut? Gregory – Yes, I would probably mix duraseal ebony and bona white for the gray and just mix to taste. Maple Hardwood Floors. Pls see my other comment. We then elected to use track lighting over the cooking area with as small of heads as possible and in black to make them ‘go away’ or get lost in the sauce. Would bleaching my floors give it that weathered, beachy look that I don’t care for? Douglas Fir, Braz Cherry and American Cherry), that generally dark walnut comes out darker that ebony on those species. Buff before 2nd coat? Do you have any specific recommendations of the darker gray colors to try? Thank you! Yes, you’ll have to look at the samples together with the birch. Before applying stain to your wood floor, you need to know what species it is. It has a very flat and matte finish. They are too watery. I mixed ebony and white…and no matter what i do all the samples have a blue tint. I see I missed some of your other questions. Saved by Brie Glahe. Please read the full article on gray hardwood floors. Any other recommendations. I can’t see it so I’m just hypothesizing. And….have you seen the brand new duraseal colors?! Browse 102,592 Grey Stained Maple Flooring on Houzz Whether you want inspiration for planning grey stained maple flooring or are building designer grey stained maple flooring from scratch, Houzz … then Bona Traffic 1 coat. I guess most of my questions are in the buffing/screening process. Of course going darker will cover up the red better, so it is a trade off. You need to speak to your flooring guy (before poly is applied) to see why it looks different. Sorry, yes I meant Red Oak wood floors. I would expect Lastnlast to amberize more and more over time. Thoughts? HI Flooring Girl, I so glad to stumble on your blog. he sanded my white oak floors to the bare original conditon, is there alight stain color you can possibly recommend. When in doubt, I find with gray it generally turns out better if you go a bit darker. Also when he puts the poly finish layer on it seems darker. I really wanted a gray floor but due to the nature of the red tone in red oak floor is very hard to achieve the color. Start with lighter gray (e.g. My question is, in talking to various contractors, the color I’m looking for (medium brown with cool tone browns, slight grey, not too dark) they are telling me it would be a mix and since I’ve got so much floor to do (over 2,000 square feet) it will be hard to mix the same mixture for the whole house. The 2 main solutions are 1) go a bit darker (i.e. It sounds like the application of it may be the issue. We provide the high quality unfinished maple cabinet doors for your kitchens and bathrooms. This lovely French Chateau style Country Kitchen features the increasingly popular shades of grey. If so, feel free to buy me a coffee and support my blog. Gray Maple Stained cabinets - christybehncke, This was a kitchen remodel with new cabinets. A little darker than I expected but the red seems to pop out places with the red oak. Walking around with socks today, there are spots on the floor that are fairly rough and will pull at the fibers in the socks. The highest grit you should use before the stain is 100. For those of you who don’t know, maple is a tricky wood to stain. See if you can find a darker gray that you like and then you can avoid the bleach all together. Thank you We have sometimes used dark walnut or coffee brown in with the ebony + white to get a gray brown (just a bit). I personally like Somerset, but there are many options such as Mohawk, Shaw, Armstrong. All of the wood types accepted the stain well, except the non-conditioned Birch side. American Cherry, Brazilian cherry, Douglas Fir, Mahogany), DO NOT try to do gray. The carpet sample is from Tuftex (Marblehead is the style). I don’t think this will ever come out looking good…unless you go very dark. oh and he’s using LastnLast water poly. - mswope90, Photos credited to Imagesmith- Scott Smith We did some test squares mixing duraseal country white and classic grey in different parts, but there always seemed to be some yellow undertones coming through. I just found your other page where you put a link to the DuraSeal. And, thanks for keeping me posted. Dark grey floor stain We are looking at purchasing an engineered hardwood floor for our kitchen - maple / graphite dark grey. Buff after? I’m having trouble finding the duraseal ebony stain. Any thoughts you have would be greatly appreciated! After all, refinishing hardwood floors can be rather inconvenient as you need to move all the furniture and often vacate the house. That does help confirm my process, thank you. Because these woods are closed pored, they absorb the stains differently and some of the darker brown stains turn gray on maple and birch (see picture to the right). It came out like paint to me! I am certain they are not a select grade. Any thoughts? I hope this makes sense. Your guy will have to be patient. When you do a 2nd coat, then that does not adhere properly nor the poly to the stain. It will be lighter than doing oil based poly and lighter than it is now (in fact, when you refinish, it will be lighter anyway as you’re removing the top layer (it’s like when you have a suntan and you’re skin continues to replace itself. I’m using NordicSeal on white oak and I want to apply 2 coats. And, will need to mix the recipes on site and adjust…especially with red oak. If you are working with a hard maple, you will want to choose a stain that is slightly heavier. If it’s prefinished wood, you can just go with the big brand names from the US. Our exclusive antiquing process emulates the unique complexity of an authentic timeworn surface. Thank you so much for your site and blog. Brazilian Walnut), that is a different story. Is there something different for the stairs? I mean, I understand 5:1 or whatever it ends up being, but when working with gallon size quantities I would think it would be hard to pinpoint the mixture so it could be repeated. Maple is one of the most difficult woods to achieve a dark, uniform stain color on because it is a dense, closed grain wood and often absorbs stain very unevenly. We are installing the floors and staining this week. My advice to you is stay away from those. my eyes are confuse (hahaha). mix in more ebony) or 2) bleach before. I had a question as to how to proceed. If you can’t do that, then do a darker gray or ditch the gray and go for a traditional gray. NO, do not light sand or buff the stain. As background, it’s easy to get the gray color in pre-finished maple or birch floors. BTW, if you do 7 parts ebony to 1 part white, it will pretty much look like ebony. We have mixed in special walnut, antique brown and dark walnut. Third, one thing is for certain..you need to ditch the LastnLast and trade up to Bona Traffic HD. Second, we use Bona white rather than country white as the white is more opaque. Eric – This would not be my inclination. Most hardwood floor companies won’t stain maple, the usual reasons being that it will be blotchy and uneven. Re: Bona gray, we have found that very difficult to work with and the sample doesn’t usually come out the same as the real floor. I will check them out (hopefully later this week). Some people do both. When I sand maple, no matter if I'm doing it natural or staining the floor… I think white oak is a good option. Thanks again! The differences in color and graining are more apparent in real life. You can now finish the floor … with ebony + white, you can suit to your own taste. And, it should be duraseal ebony. Thank you so much for your response. Steve – First, you’ll want to test it. Is it possible to mix the Ebony with the Classic Grey to get a draker grey? Is there a special bleach that is used? I really am just looking for the colors that are best to start with. Maybe I’ll grab those 4 (ebony, white (bona), coffee brown, and dark walnut) and hope he is patient. This prevents liquids from penetrating; oiled floors don’t have that same level of protection. Genesis Architecture.Laundry room - contemporary concrete floor and orange floor laundry room idea in MilwaukeeOrange terracotta floor, just for color not the product shown - isobeth23, Inspiration for a mid-sized contemporary wooden curved staircase remodel in Orange County with wooden risersCappuccino maple like what you were looking at. Learn more about the Normandy Remodeling Designer, Stephanie Bryant, who created this kitchen: http://www.normandyremodeling.com/stephaniebryant/ contrasting material on counters - webuser_174691337, Ellison Maple in Cannonade by Anderson Hardwood Floors. Finding pre-finished gray hardwood is easy, but how about if you already have oak hardwood floors in your Westchester home? Have you worked out on dark wood before ? What color of Bona white is your preference to achieve these gray colors? This is what you need to do to get gray. Second, no, I would never use Minwax for this. Are you about to sand your floors? I hope that helps. The one I sent: https://www.amazon.com/Dura-Seal-Penetrating-Finish-Quick/dp/B002EDRXW4, On your page: It will look a bit better, but the real reason to do it is durability. But, after that ratio was figured out, it was straight forward. It’s not my first choice. Is that he doesn’t want to pay for more cans of stain to test? Have you ever done a 50/50 ebony and country white on red oak? They are actually the same product! The biggest disadvantage is that they can be more difficult to maintain. intel to my gc’s flooring guy and he has suggested trying bona gray and a duraseal medium/dark for the new/existing red oak. You should not need to bleach white oak at all (and it damages the floor, not to mention what it might do to the walnut). I would test it in a section first. I don’t see the grain through the color hardly at all. If so, how? Gray is very difficult to achieve, especially on red oak and even most professionals have difficulty with this. If you mean you have red oak, then you have 2 choices: 1) Bleach the floors first or 2) choose a darker gray to hide the pink undertones. I would like some help! If that’s the issue, you can offer to buy the other cans (e.g. I’m guessing that Bona Aged Pewter is better than those, but it may not be the right shade of gray for you..and you may have red oak on the steps which makes everything trickier. It may work or it may look awful. It was not attractive at all. Can you please provide suggested details in the topic. Anyway, thanks for your awesome site! Thank you so much. After the resin stain coat has dried seal your maple floor with one coat of dewaxed shellac sealer, OMU sealer, or acid cure sealer. Lisa – I would advise against this. I was asking what tool do you use to apply the stain and poly? Test with and without water pop. It’s the top coat that will give it the final sheen. It’s always more challenging to do grey on red oak, especially light gray. The island cabinet was of painted maple with a chocolate glaze as well, this unit wanted to look like a piece of furniture that was brought into the ‘cabin’ rather than built-in, again with a value minded approach. felt pads, vent covers, Hardwood supplies e.g. So, if you do matte on 1st coat and feel it’s too matte, then switch to satin for coats 2 and 3 (or vice versa). Terry – No, you don’t. The Do’s and Dont’s of Staining Maple Cabinet Doors will help you finish your cabinet order from The Door Stop. Your mix sounds a bit more complicated and we did something similar using maybe 4 colors and did it for 1000 sf and my guys weren’t concerned. Note: if they are different species, they will never match. Some diversity in different types of materials would keep the flow with the rest of the house. First, I will tell you that red oak floors come out better if you bleach them first. Not sure how long to wait before using them? Most oiled floors use linseed or tung oil, or a combo of the two. It sounds like the contractor didn’t apply stain correctly nor use right poly. Entertain with an open and functional kitchen/ dining room. This stain added very little color to any of the boards, (maybe slightly lighter with a tinge of green), but really brought out their natural color and grain. And, since this is more expensive than your typical refinishing job, you might as well make it last longer so you can postpone the need to refinish your floors again. Are you using Duraseal ebony and Bona White? Oh hi Matt. Or is it the common household Clorox we’re talking about? I applied the samples and am going with the 3:1 as I have red oak and the dark looked better like you described. Joe – Yes, that would look nice. I know you are preaching 3 coats and I’ve read 3 is much better other places but the instructions state 2 is sufficient. Ebony I can find just not the white. Note that gray stained floors work better on white oak than red oak (and even better on maple. What tbar tools or applicator pads are recommended? But, it might work if the person wants to go very dark gray. I am refinishing my red oak hardwood floors and would like to do a gray stain. Interesting. As a homeowner, you can do the repair yourself, and you don’t need to sand and refinish. 3:1 ratio of ebony to white) and then keep adding ebony and brown to get the right mix. But, if you’re asking can you do those browns with white, I suppose you could, but it won’t be gray…it will be more of a beige. But, there are some downsides to the oiled floors. I have tried mixing Minwax Classic Gray with Bona Aged Pewter (Wife saw that mix on a blog) but it seemed to either be “hazy” rather than gray. Higher end homeowners in Westchester keep requesting gray hardwood floors. Have tried minwax and other stains with no luck. Is there a stain color we could mix with the gray … Is it really going to make it look that much nicer? These items cost more than the typical hardwood cleaners, but at least you can make repairs as scratches occur. Limestone tile floors. i used the bona grey since it works well with the bona traffic hd . It will be a bit lighter/more orange/less red (I hope that makes sense). Y es you can have your maple floors stained a different color.. And what kind of poly would you use? Joe – Oh good, I’m so glad to hear that. Cabinetry: Rustic Maple wood with Silas stain and a nickle glaze, Full overlay raised panel doors with slab drawer fronts. Hi Liz. I would stay away from the new duraseal colors. I am in the process of refinishing and staining my Brazilian walnut floors. 6 months to 1 year), it won’t look the same. I’m not sure what you’re asking with the browns. But, I would try to go to a flooring store to make sure you have the right item and best quality. Transom windows were incorporated on the range wall to let even more light flood in. And, if you’re looking for this particular floor (which is pre-finished) – Shaw Castlewood Hearth, you can buy it here. If you do bleach (and I do NOT recommend you bleach), then yes, you’d need to carefully tape off the walnut. Yes, it would be a mix for sure, but it seems to me that a good contractor should be able to do this well with careful measuring. Next question I did two coats of Poly with the one gallon of traffic HD in satin. Many consider this a nice, contemporary “Scandinavian” look. what are your thoughts? Do you think this si a good idea. Thanks so much for everything. but, I suppose you could add more ebony if needed. I would like a medium grey with warm brown added….so warm grey I would wait at least 8 hrs before walking on floor (w/ socks), but 24 hrs is even better. I can’t stand the pink. Please help ..looks like maybe left stain without wiping. Every place I ask says its not from China or they say it is but that the regulations have changed and it’s safe. I would not worry about it being too hard to clean/showing dirt…because you can just add more white. This will have an impact on how the grain looks and it’s hard to predict which way you’ll prefer until you see it. Note: this is not healthy for the wood and also may not work well with American cherry…it may in fact have a reaction. It’s better to get the stain to the correct shade before if you can. Weathered oak and gray? Did you find my tips helpful? Apply first coat of poly. I wasn’t talking about mixing them. We are going to install white oak flooring and want a natural wood look with no staining or amberizing. Photo by Johnny StevensIncorporate Austin stone features to match fireplaces - webuser_767874039, The nearly 10’ island is an ideal place for food prep, a quick bite, buffet set-up, or sharing a glass of wine with friends. I’m looking to do 3 coats of the Bona HD water based poly. By pre-sealing the wood with shellac, you can even out the … In addition to the environmental benefits, many like the ability to spot repair the oiled floors. That will get me a dark gray? then, do 3 coats Bona Traffic HD for poly. However, if you mean that you have a different species that is naturally dark (e.g. First, you’ll need to do a bleach to drown out the red. We strongly recommend Bona Traffic HD poly for this effect (see below on where to buy). Please note that some of this site’s links are affiliate links, and TheFlooringGirl.com is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. I have a hunch, you’ll probably prefer 5 to 1 or 3 to 1 if you want dark gray, but this is a preference thing. In the above pictures, you see different ratios of white:ebony. Very minimal marketing or even chips, so my guy hadn’t even heard of them. I have an old hardwood floor but I don’t know the type of wood. They were doing exactly what you said and the floors turned out great. 3. It is on the lighter side. Hard maple will fair better with lighter stains. The other issue you may be having is the ingredients being used. I will keep you posted. You may want to look around for a contractor who is more confident in this arena and has more experience with grays and mixes. Thanks! Hi Lisa. country white, etc.) Tara – For darker gray, we generally just do Duraseal ebony + bona white…we just use less white. He showed me some samples but i was not crazy. Wish my floor guy were more interested in working with me (stuck with him as he’s GC guy), but he’s asked me to pick 3-4 cans at most. Your blog was a lot of help (Is there any truth to fruitwood? We have found doing an ebony/white mix works best and/or mixing in some true black. dark walnut or special walnut and test until you have the right mix. Should they have this roughness? We’ve been using that combo for years. Nick – Personally, I would do 3. Our countertops are all made with truly antique woods, reclaimed from structures built in the 1800s and as early as circa 1780. Thanks for your help. I’m down to do another coat but it seems fine and I hate to have to buy another $130 gallon when I would only need half of it. You can see all my recos on my Amazon Influencer page. Too bad you’re so far away from Dallas, upstairs floors are next! Yes, I agree it’s a bit of challenge. despite all of the work involved letting wood dry, putting in the tongue and groove nailing it down sanding and more sanding filling a few gaps and more sanding , then a stain prep and then the bona grey stain and finally first coat of bona traffic hd . The structural Douglas Fir post and ceiling beams set the tone along with the stain matched 2x6 pine tongue and groove ceiling –this also serves as the finished floor surface at the loft above. To achieve the LEED for Homes Silver rating, the home includes such green features as solar thermal water heating, solar shading, low-e clad windows, Energy Star appliances, and native plant and wildlife habitat. It will probably take a while to experiment with this if you haven’t done it before. On red oak, you’ll probably want to do a mid to darker gray to hide the red undertones. I keep seeing that in tips on some articles.) Please note that refinishing hardwood floors gray is challenging and should be handled by an expert, especially one with experience in gray and white washed floors. You’ll just need to find a color you like. Staining hardwood floors gray | Refinish wood gray | Westchester County, Duraseal’s new gray and greige blend line, Best paint colors with gray hardwood flooring. I am trying to get light grey floors with a red oak level 1 or level 1 floors. The knotty Alder floating shelves and wall cabinetry share their own natural finish with a chocolate glazing. Beautiful ceiling details!! They have sanded and stained one day, and now have put on 2 coats of water based poly. These woods are close pored and absorb the stains differently on your commercial and residential hardwood flooring. (These mismatched species were installed by a previous contractor but it’s a great illustration to show the difference). The right oak is on top and the white oak on the bottom. April 2020. He is asking for only a few final “real” samples on Monday and I’m wondering what your thoughts are on bona gray (versus your usual combo) to simplify the process — he is pretty grumpy about tinkering, which stinks but I’m stuck with him. Often times, repairs are needed on an older floor and gray stain does not do the best job blending the new age flooring and the old age flooring. How to combine stains to create greige on oak floors. I guess there are 2 different distributors selling it on Amazon. Range and stainless steel refrigerator. Also, I would like my finish to have cool toned undertones, nothing warm or red and I don’t want it to be dark. And, if you don’t like the look, it’s certainly not right. It’s way to light/liquidity and seems to have a lot of blue (and sometimes green) undertones. What’s the difference? You should do 3 coats of poly. I have a quick question…Do you use BONA DriFast Naturals for the White and for the Ebony is it DuraSeal QuickCoat or Penetrating Finish? Bona traffic HD has some UV protection in it, so it will help a bit, but still you can’t stop the natural process. I think the white stain may be water based (I’ll need to check). I’m sure durability would be better but seems fine. Thank you for the reply. I read through about 2 years worth of comments, and decided I needed to ask questions, that might be answered, but I’m running short of time, being that I need to have stain on site tomorrow. 7. It costs more than your standard type of refinishing (read below to understand why), but for those looking for the stylish gray look, it’s well worth it. Our contractors have put down white oak and have created some samples. But whatever you do, test it first and I don’t think testing in a closet will work well. You would need to go a darker gray than an oak due to all the extra red. Treads and stairnoses are often red oak, and if you have white oak or another species, it would not look the same. I built my own wood floor out of douglas fir 1×6 and wanted to stain it grey . We’re planning to get rid of the living room carpet next Spring and I would love to go with grey – but I’m not sure it would look good with birch doors and window trim. I am hoping for a medium (or even light) brown with a touch of gray to pick up the bleached part of the cabs. Where do you live? Thanks! Minwax Simply White. (More white vs ebony..e.g. They still need to screen the floors and add another coat of poly. Boasting a color palette of subtle earthy grays and browns, the home is filled with natural textures balanced with sophisticated finishes and fixtures. Do I buff or anything before applying the poly? Hard maple floors offer a nice, light, bright look to a room, and are often paired with matching cabinetry when the home is built. And that’s it. But, it will darken over time due to the sunlight (and artificial light). “Due to the extremely tight cellular structure and variable grain patterns inherent in northern hard maple, the Maple Flooring Manufacturers Association (MFMA) does not recommend staining or bleaching maple strip flooring … LC – Sorry about the delay. A few places were tough to blend since I have never stained before and took me about half way through before I had it down and learned how long to let it sit, wipe away drop marks right away and whatnot. But, I think it’s very risky on Cherry, especially as the cherries (both American and Brazilian) are more oily, so I would expect problems. I see you live in Florida…where they tend to use a lot of engineered flooring, so I’m hoping you have solid wood, as you may need to sand again if you’re not happy with it. Could you share the stain ratios for that picture? I would expect it to come out pink and it’s not something I would recommend at all. A custom wood hood was created on site and add to the rustic appeal. - aptreex, A wall of tall cabinets was incorporated into the master bathroom space so the closet and bathroom could be one open area. That hasn’t been a concern for my guys. 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